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susan rice very much in more of the hawkish camp. she was along with hillary clinton one of the two people that really sort of pushed the national security team to be more aggressive on the libya front during the decision to have the -- to create that no-fly zone. john kerry has a history of being a little more dovish, if you will, voting against a lot of interventions. so how much of an intervention would she be, there was actually a philosophical issue, if you will. i think on paper, the president likes both of them. knows it's important to john kerry and believes john kerry earned the right to be secretary of state, more than fully qualified, but i think in his heart of hearts, his heart was telling him susan rice but he was getting political advice ha said, is this a fight worth having? you've got a lot of fights you're going to have on capitol hill in the next six to nine months, including the one you're in the middle ever now. is this one worth it? >> but, chuck, this woman was highly qualified. she's a rhodes scholar. she has
susan rice very much in more of the hawkish camp. she was along with hillary clinton one of the two people that really sort of pushed the national security team to be more aggressive on the libya front during the decision to have the -- to create that no-fly zone. john kerry has a history of being a little more dovish, if you will, voting against a lot of interventions. so how much of an intervention would she be, there was actually a philosophical issue, if you will. i think on paper, the...
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to get from susan rice. so that certainly did not help susan rice. it seemed to poison the well for her even more than it was before. so there isn't a big surprise here. even democrats, again, who i talked to, say that she was incredibly competent. that she is very, very smart. but that there might be a personality issue that makes them reluctant to have her as the person representing the u.s. in the role of secretary of state. but they also say that just as jessica said, that she might be very well suited to be the president's national security adviser, because there isn't confirmation there, and it's more inherently political. to your answer about john kerry, there certainly is a lot of support for him here. there is a member of the senate club. he has been for years and years. he is currently the senate foreign relations chairman. and he has not really made it that much of a secret that he wants this job. has for years and years. and it's been really kind of awkward and uncomfortable, frankly, as there's
to get from susan rice. so that certainly did not help susan rice. it seemed to poison the well for her even more than it was before. so there isn't a big surprise here. even democrats, again, who i talked to, say that she was incredibly competent. that she is very, very smart. but that there might be a personality issue that makes them reluctant to have her as the person representing the u.s. in the role of secretary of state. but they also say that just as jessica said, that she might be very...
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susan rice is somebody they know very well. they're very loyal to her. this is somebody who has worked her way up through the diplomatic ranks in a way that's different from john kerry. john kerry worked his way up to the political ranks. susan rice has done every job you need to have done in unelected politics, if you will, to be qualified, to have the resume, to have the experience to be secretary of state. and, by the way, don't forget there was also the fact that kerry and rice in some ways some could argue see the world a little bit differently. susan rice is somebody a little more of an interventionist. wants to get involved. look at libya. she was somebody that was strongly there. john kerry is somebody who has seen war firsthand and is somebody who is very much hesitant as an interventionist when it comes to things. voted against things. so there was a lot here i think that was more than just am i going to do something with my friend or do something to reward the party. more complicated than that. >> i guess that's why as a commentator i feel mor
susan rice is somebody they know very well. they're very loyal to her. this is somebody who has worked her way up through the diplomatic ranks in a way that's different from john kerry. john kerry worked his way up to the political ranks. susan rice has done every job you need to have done in unelected politics, if you will, to be qualified, to have the resume, to have the experience to be secretary of state. and, by the way, don't forget there was also the fact that kerry and rice in some ways...
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he really wanted susan rice. and then it became clear that she had problems that were identified by john mccain and others who found her too political. they thought that she made it worse by going up to the hill u and i was told by people very close to the president that he would have withdrawn or asked her to withdraw sooner but did not want to back down in the face of opposition from john mccain. >> andrea mitchell, part of our team covering this story. we do want to let you know that ambassador rice will be speaking to us exclusively for tonight's broadcast of "rock center," 10:00 eastern/9 central time. we will hear from the ambassador as to her reasoning for, again, wi withdrawing hear hurricane rita name from consideration as the next possible sochls we will see you again on "nbc nightly news" this evening. for our team in washington, i'm brian williams, nbc news. >> you heard it there, susan rice will not be the next secretary of state. my quick two thoughts here. i'm rye relieved, someone following the li
he really wanted susan rice. and then it became clear that she had problems that were identified by john mccain and others who found her too political. they thought that she made it worse by going up to the hill u and i was told by people very close to the president that he would have withdrawn or asked her to withdraw sooner but did not want to back down in the face of opposition from john mccain. >> andrea mitchell, part of our team covering this story. we do want to let you know that...
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there's got to be another great job for susan rice. i would have to say maybe national security advisor when tom donelan moves along. she deserves it. we need her in a position like that. >> jennifer: yeah, she's one sharp cookie, for sure. it kills me, too that the right won on that if that's, in fact, what happened. let's turn quickly, bill, to the fiscal cliff because as we speak, john boehner and the president are meeting. here's what house speaker john boehner said today about the president's mandate. take a listen. >> it was a mandate for both parties to work together, to take on the big challenges that our country is facing. republicans are ready and eager to do just that. we made a reasonable offer. it is now up to the white house to show us how they're going to cut spending and give us the balanced agreement that the president has talked about for weeks. >> jennifer: okay, bill, you were at the white house today. what's going to happen? >> bill: well, let me just say first, i'm so -- i try to be as objective as i can hello. i'
there's got to be another great job for susan rice. i would have to say maybe national security advisor when tom donelan moves along. she deserves it. we need her in a position like that. >> jennifer: yeah, she's one sharp cookie, for sure. it kills me, too that the right won on that if that's, in fact, what happened. let's turn quickly, bill, to the fiscal cliff because as we speak, john boehner and the president are meeting. here's what house speaker john boehner said today about the...
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ambassador susan rice will not affect his choice. >> have republicans' attacks against susan rice sort of boxed you into a corner, would it look like a sign of weakness if you did not appoint her to secretary of state? >> no, i don't really spend a lot of time on what folks say on cable news programs attacking highly qualified personnel like susan rice. susan rice has done a great job as u.n. ambassador, but i haven't made a decision about secretary of state. >> nothing wrong with cable news programs. meantime, sam stein is reporting top democrats believe republicans are using the fight over susan rice to force the white house into an appointment of senator john kerry. how come? well, get this. according to sam, though democrats believe republicans want to regain the lost seat in massachusetts by forcing a runoff election for john kerry's spot if he is named. we hear scott brown may be looking for work. >>> well, turning now to more serious news overseas, with the growing concern, the syrian government came resort to using chemical weapon, turkey is building up its defenses along its s
ambassador susan rice will not affect his choice. >> have republicans' attacks against susan rice sort of boxed you into a corner, would it look like a sign of weakness if you did not appoint her to secretary of state? >> no, i don't really spend a lot of time on what folks say on cable news programs attacking highly qualified personnel like susan rice. susan rice has done a great job as u.n. ambassador, but i haven't made a decision about secretary of state. >> nothing wrong...
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i want to talk about the middle east exploding that you've hinted at and also benghazi and susan rice, which i know is a favorite subject of yours, senator. >> so good of you, pierce. oh...there you go. wooohooo....hahaahahaha! i'm gonna stand up to her! no you're not. i know. you know ronny folks who save hundreds of dollars switching to geico sure are happy. how happy are they jimmy? happier than a witch in a broom factory. get happy. get geico. fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more. he loves risk. but whether he's climbing everest, scuba diving the great barrier reef with sharks, or jumping into the market, he goes with people he trusts, which is why he trades with a company that doesn't nickel and dime him with hidden fees. so he can worry about other things, like what the market is doing and being ready, no matter what happens, which isn't rocket science. it's just common sense, from td ameritrade. example, of chemical weapons, nerve gas being used in syria which can literally wipe out thousands of people with one single weapon. the united states has been disenga
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. >> what's happened is if susan rice has taken a beating. we look at her favorability now in the new nbc news-wall street journal poll -- our poll -- it shows she only has a 20% favorable rating. neutral 25%. disapproval, 24%. for someone that isn't that well known, she has been associated with just this fight and just benghazi. >> the biggest number at all is most people don't know enough about her to make up their opinion. as we know, the way politics worse is that absence two sides of a debate, one side will win. if there is one piece of information, it's all been pretty negative about her so far. i do think there is a risk for republicans regardless of whether they will say that if they proceed with a pretty ugly i think there are problems with terms of tone and how aggress he have the republicans want to be seen as going after her especially because so many attacks are over this benghazi issue and over talking points, and -- >> she had nothing -- >> look. her critics make other arguments, and you can debate the substance of that, but ma
. >> what's happened is if susan rice has taken a beating. we look at her favorability now in the new nbc news-wall street journal poll -- our poll -- it shows she only has a 20% favorable rating. neutral 25%. disapproval, 24%. for someone that isn't that well known, she has been associated with just this fight and just benghazi. >> the biggest number at all is most people don't know enough about her to make up their opinion. as we know, the way politics worse is that absence two...
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all he has been doing is taking on susan rice. >> he is on to this one. it's going to be a great test for the president. it's clear the president wants to nominate her. it's clear he has not made that decision final. if he does, there's going to be a heck of a fight. it's going to put republicans in a box. they're going to have to make some decisions. at least lindsey graham and john mccain seem to be of one mind on this. >> going back to john mccain, though, this is a case of senatorial stalking. he was -- he had to give up the chairmanship of the armed services committee. he was term limited out in terms of the republican roles, so he went looking for another place where he could kind of do the same thing. >> he has found a corner of his own, but i think what is ironic here, mark, is that the republicans have rallied around john kerry anti-war hero who they swift boated less than ten years ago as the new secretary of state. >> the voice of reason. no, it's amazing to see how this happens. he and john mccain are best friends again. he called him mr. pres
all he has been doing is taking on susan rice. >> he is on to this one. it's going to be a great test for the president. it's clear the president wants to nominate her. it's clear he has not made that decision final. if he does, there's going to be a heck of a fight. it's going to put republicans in a box. they're going to have to make some decisions. at least lindsey graham and john mccain seem to be of one mind on this. >> going back to john mccain, though, this is a case of...
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and i don't think they want to get into a battle over susan rice. i think they would much rather have john kerry because they know who he is. >> maria, same question. what does she have to do, then? >> here's the frustration. i'll say what she has to do, but here's the frustration with this whole discussion. the focus is so much on what she said or didn't say, whether she carried the party line or not. can we remember another secretary of state named rice who actually did carry the party line that took us into unnecessary war? so when republicans focus on that, i think it's a little bit hypocritica hypocritical. the second thing is, if we really want to focus on what happened in benghazi, attacking susan rice does not get to the heart of what happened in benghazi. she had nothing to do with what happened in benghazi. let's talk about the talking points if that's what they want to talk about. let's talk about the cia and whether there was a flap there with the talking points. focusing on susan rice does not get us on where we need to be on fixing the
and i don't think they want to get into a battle over susan rice. i think they would much rather have john kerry because they know who he is. >> maria, same question. what does she have to do, then? >> here's the frustration. i'll say what she has to do, but here's the frustration with this whole discussion. the focus is so much on what she said or didn't say, whether she carried the party line or not. can we remember another secretary of state named rice who actually did carry the...
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i want to talk about the middle east exploding that you've hinted at and also benghazi and susan rice, which i know is a favorite subject of yours, senator. >> so good of you, pierce. it's me? alright emma, i know it's not your favorite but it's time for your medicine, okay? you ready? one, two, three. [ both ] ♪ emma, emma bo-bemma ♪ banana-fana-fo-femma ♪ fee-fi-fo-femma ♪ em-ma very good sweety, how do you feel? good. yeah? you did a really good job, okay? [ female announcer ] to nurses everywhere, thank you, from johnson & johnson. [ female announcer ] to nurses everywhere, ...so as you can see, geico's customer satisfaction is at 97%. mmmm tasty. and cut! very good. people are always asking me how we make these geico adverts. so we're taking you behind the scenes. this coffee cup, for example, is computer animated. it's not real. geico's customer satisfaction is quite real though. this computer-animated coffee tastes dreadful. geico. 15 minutes could save you 15 % or more on car insurance. someone get me a latte will ya, please? tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 at schwab, we're commi
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rice and susan rice is hanging out there now, and everyone -- all of her critics are taking shots at her. is there any reason to want to try to move this more quickly, the cabinet selection? what goes on behind the scenes here? >> i would take some exception with the way you describe it, andrea. look, these are important decisions. john kerry, senator kerry, and ambassador rice are extremely well qualified. obviously, there's been a lot of news around the ambassador over the last number of months by virtue of them benghazi situation. she is extremely well qualified. the president knows that. he is not iffing to be forced into a decision by virtue of the chatter that's out there in the street and the politics, and i think he is going about it in a deliberate way. there are a lot of other issues also going on that he deals with on a daily basis that are very real-time, and you also have the fiscal cliff problem. he i don't feel has the secretary of state who has said she will stay in in national hockey league a replacement is there. it is normal to get that done right before the inaugu
rice and susan rice is hanging out there now, and everyone -- all of her critics are taking shots at her. is there any reason to want to try to move this more quickly, the cabinet selection? what goes on behind the scenes here? >> i would take some exception with the way you describe it, andrea. look, these are important decisions. john kerry, senator kerry, and ambassador rice are extremely well qualified. obviously, there's been a lot of news around the ambassador over the last number...
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jimmy, when it does come to susan rice, why is john mccain going after her so forcefully, basically giving a pass to secretary of state hillary clinton, but going after rice. >> it's interesting, because that is the committee of jurisdiction. any nomination will be sent to the committee for an up or down vote. with jim demint resigning, there's an opening on the committee and john mccain wants it. he's already lost his ranking membership on the commerce committee, so what's john mccain, the elder statesman supposed to do, be the most junior freshman of the foreign relations committee that he's going to try to stop any nomination brought to the hill for secretary of state. it's a very interesting move on his part. >> meanwhile, there's been grand speculation of whether or not this nomination will rise up and go forward. republicans have certainly been forcefully trying to stomp that down and even promote john kerry to that role, but does the president get backed into the corner by the fact republicans have been so opposed by this, does he need to nominate rice to make a statement? >> he nee
jimmy, when it does come to susan rice, why is john mccain going after her so forcefully, basically giving a pass to secretary of state hillary clinton, but going after rice. >> it's interesting, because that is the committee of jurisdiction. any nomination will be sent to the committee for an up or down vote. with jim demint resigning, there's an opening on the committee and john mccain wants it. he's already lost his ranking membership on the commerce committee, so what's john mccain,...
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but this issue, i think about libya and susan rice, has gone way far enough. she doesn't have anything to prove. >> go ahead, mary. >> it's not about libya. it's not about benghazi, which we now know the facts are that the administration handled very, very badly. what senator lieberman said is right. this is not about a sunday morning talk show. it's not about whether or not senators mccain and others are upset at the president. if you look at her u.n. record and, more importantly, her state department record, senator albright was furious with her and put her on probation. she has a terrible record among professional diplomats in the same -- i don't know if she was a terrible desk officer from ethiopia, genocide, which is the president says is one of his greatest regrets or mistakes, those were all on his watch. if she did such a terrible job there, how can she be a secretary? >> the president has been able to rehash that old garbage that mary is talking about. they have not done so now. they are talking about trumped-up charges and old regrets and on issues t
but this issue, i think about libya and susan rice, has gone way far enough. she doesn't have anything to prove. >> go ahead, mary. >> it's not about libya. it's not about benghazi, which we now know the facts are that the administration handled very, very badly. what senator lieberman said is right. this is not about a sunday morning talk show. it's not about whether or not senators mccain and others are upset at the president. if you look at her u.n. record and, more importantly,...
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we're told the president's still not decided about susan rice versus john kerry, and now there are a number of other players because this is a domino bit of business, where if susan rice goes to the senate department instead of john kerry, it would mean that someone else, probably tom donna lin will remain as chief of -- as national security adviser. it would open up the u.n. ambassador's job for samantha power. look at some of the players in play here. you have a team being weighed and balanced. susan, what are you hearing as to which way the president might go? >> you know, i think that you would have to talk -- the true answer is i don't know which way the president is going to go. i think he's in a box. he's gotten himself in a pickle here. it seems clear his preference is susan rice for state and that's buying an argument he knows that's buying a fight with the senate for confirmation. if he goes with her he's going to spend political capital there. if he doesn't go for her now, does it indicate he's backing off in the face of opposition which might send a signal. i think this w
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when you look at john kerry versus susan rice, who is the hawk and who is the dove? >> i think the truth is in this administration, the president is his own chief strategist. the secretary of state implements the president's policy. hillary clinton has been a superb secretary of state because she has recognized that. policymaking is done in the white house by the president. she gets to be the global ambassador at large for the united states. so neither of them is going to be making policy. barack obama is going to be making policy. >> thanks very much, fareed. appreciate it as also. this sunday, don't miss "tough decisions," a "fareed zakaria gps" special where he's going to talk to u.s. leaders about the tough decisions they had to make around the world. this sunday at 8:00 and 11:00 p.m. eastern on cnn. >>> our third story out front. post office in peril. tis the season to head to the post office. right? people, i know you think it's okay to send online greeting cards. it isn't. it always matters more. it's part of the scenery of the season. package presents. lette
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rice, attacking susan rice for days. is that a fight that they want to pick? >> you'd think they wouldn't want to pick this fight, especially when there are other well-qualified people who want to be secretary of state such as john kerry, the senator of massachusetts, has made no secret at all that this is a position he's wanted far really long time. so you think this would not be a battle the white house would pick. but obviously the president has a lot of loyalty to susan rice. his defense of her a couple weeks ago from the podium was really unique and frankly defensive. so if this is who he wants, he has every right to nominate her and the senate has every right to say no. >> david, before i let you guys get out of here, i had katon dawson on a few minutes ago. saturdays we like to engage in speculation a fair amount. he didn't say whether he would take a nod from governor hailey for that senate seat. if you were a betting man, who would you bet that the governor gives the nod to that jim demint senate seat? >> i'm al
rice, attacking susan rice for days. is that a fight that they want to pick? >> you'd think they wouldn't want to pick this fight, especially when there are other well-qualified people who want to be secretary of state such as john kerry, the senator of massachusetts, has made no secret at all that this is a position he's wanted far really long time. so you think this would not be a battle the white house would pick. but obviously the president has a lot of loyalty to susan rice. his...
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that was her goal. >> so obviously, secretary clinton offering a vigorous defense of susan rice, the context obviously being the attacks on benghazi and libya and the republican calls for more information. is there anything to be read from the fact that we have seen both president obama and secretary of state clinton go out of their way in a way to defend susan rice? is there anything we should tea leave read from that fact? >> well, chris, i think the president and secretary of state were right to defend per. these allegations are completely unfounded. they're unfair to her. she is a very talented, very effective, committed public servant. you know you know how those sunday show work when administration officials of either party go on, they're following talking points that the republican or democratic administration, whichever party's in power, has constructed and that's what susan did that morning. if any other administration official had been on the air that morning they would have said essentially more or less the same thing. i don't think the attacks are fair and she deserves a
that was her goal. >> so obviously, secretary clinton offering a vigorous defense of susan rice, the context obviously being the attacks on benghazi and libya and the republican calls for more information. is there anything to be read from the fact that we have seen both president obama and secretary of state clinton go out of their way in a way to defend susan rice? is there anything we should tea leave read from that fact? >> well, chris, i think the president and secretary of...
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susan rice has done a great job as u.n. ambassador, but i've made a decision about secretary of state. >> joining us now here in washington, former national security adviser for president carter, dr. zbigniew brzezinski, author of "strategic vision." great to have you back on, dad. sam stein and steve rattner also with us. is barnicle still in new york? yeah. okay. >> wake up, mike. >> he's asleep. >> wake up. >> what does "there" exactly mean. >> define that. we've been talking, dr. brzezinski, about the fiscal cliff. i'd love your take on it, what signal it sends to the rest of the world that we don't seem to be able to put our economic house in order. >> well, the way you put it, you give the answer. your answer is right. we look a little bit disorderly. indecisive, leaderless. that's a real problem. and that's a problem that concerns me particularly on foreign affairs. the presidency, not just president obama, but the presidency in recent years has lost some of the terrain that they used to dominate in the making of for
susan rice has done a great job as u.n. ambassador, but i've made a decision about secretary of state. >> joining us now here in washington, former national security adviser for president carter, dr. zbigniew brzezinski, author of "strategic vision." great to have you back on, dad. sam stein and steve rattner also with us. is barnicle still in new york? yeah. okay. >> wake up, mike. >> he's asleep. >> wake up. >> what does "there" exactly mean....
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there have been voices thought wondered why she has not been scrutinized as much as susan rice or general david petraeus, into matter, even though he was slightly scrutinized about that as well? >> that is a fair inkwurry. secretary clint, as you recall, right before the debates, took full responsible for the what happened in ben gas zip. and she was the secretary of state. were there mistakes made in the department? yes. were they her mistakes, probably not. but as head of the department she takes responsibility for them. i agree with chris her performance, i can't remember in my lifetime, a secretary of state as effective. this problem, and this is a problem, will be a very, very minor thing on her record as secretary of state o >> it depends on how this hearing goes, you have republicans who reportedly behind the scenes fearful to take her on if they decide to launch an assault if they can't, if you will, get their hoornsd susan rice, unfollowing go after the former cis director, general david petraeus, might she be the target? >> i doubt t i don't think that would be a smart strategy
there have been voices thought wondered why she has not been scrutinized as much as susan rice or general david petraeus, into matter, even though he was slightly scrutinized about that as well? >> that is a fair inkwurry. secretary clint, as you recall, right before the debates, took full responsible for the what happened in ben gas zip. and she was the secretary of state. were there mistakes made in the department? yes. were they her mistakes, probably not. but as head of the department...
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. >> buzz in washington about whether susan rice or john kerry will be the next secretary of state and i'm told the president hasn't made up his mind yet and may not make up his mind until january. he wants to get the fiscal cliff business done with so don't be in a rush to await that decision. chris: when we return, the the week, will barack obama's scores in the second term be on foreign policy or here at home? k of hunger. that's more than the population of new york city, chicago and los angeles combined. you can make a difference in your community and help end childhood hunger... the more you know. chris: welcome back. syria, egypt and afghanistan are just the foreign policy challenges we already know about russia out china and there which brings us to the big question this week -- will the president's second term triumphs be abroad or here at home? >> i think his second term will be defined by foreign policy and looming confrontation over iran. chris: politco has spoken. >> despite all of the domestic issues, he will have a bigger role to play on the world stage and brought into t
. >> buzz in washington about whether susan rice or john kerry will be the next secretary of state and i'm told the president hasn't made up his mind yet and may not make up his mind until january. he wants to get the fiscal cliff business done with so don't be in a rush to await that decision. chris: when we return, the the week, will barack obama's scores in the second term be on foreign policy or here at home? k of hunger. that's more than the population of new york city, chicago and...
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i do know that our ambassador susan rice is qualified rhodes scholar, she is a brilliant woman, worked in the national security, within that team. she knows what she's doing, has done her job well, isen a expert and deserves a fair hearing. do not airport her. do not make it appear that she has not done her job when in fact what she was doing was her job. if the president wants to put her name forward she needs a fair hearing and she is such a well-qualified woman that i hope quite frankly that the president does put her name forward. >> eliot: if there was ever a case where the messager was being shot, she didn't write the information she put forth the c.i.a. did. senator mccain was going after her, some thought there was a personal feud. >> it's hard to imagine but senator mccain should be praising her for doing her job well especially when you have national security crisis, you want most of our officials you want everyone to be on the same page. she was on the same page, so he should be saluting her applauding her and really not providing these kind of horrible statements about her.
i do know that our ambassador susan rice is qualified rhodes scholar, she is a brilliant woman, worked in the national security, within that team. she knows what she's doing, has done her job well, isen a expert and deserves a fair hearing. do not airport her. do not make it appear that she has not done her job when in fact what she was doing was her job. if the president wants to put her name forward she needs a fair hearing and she is such a well-qualified woman that i hope quite frankly that...
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a huge susan rice fan, as someone said to me. but this source also said the longer she hangs out there the harder it is. of course, last week was not a great week for her. as you recall, she went to the hill to try to asage republican concerns and mf them came out of that lessen thenthusiast. the president is the one who makes these decisions and he's a huge fan of susan rice. >> well, we'll see what he does. >> and don't forget, in the top four cabinet posts, susan rice is a woman. and i think there's a real sense of diversity in that they'dke to see a woman in one of the top four jobs. >> there should be a woman in the top four jobs. >> secretary of state is a woman. so we'll see about that. >> thank you very much. >>> now arrested, we have details of the surprising charges and a shocking past. .4 [ woman ] dear cat, your hair mixes with pollen and dust. i get congested. but now, with zyrtec-d®, i have the proven allergy relief of zyrtec®, plus a powerful decongestant. zyrtec-d® lets me breath freer, so i can love the air. [
a huge susan rice fan, as someone said to me. but this source also said the longer she hangs out there the harder it is. of course, last week was not a great week for her. as you recall, she went to the hill to try to asage republican concerns and mf them came out of that lessen thenthusiast. the president is the one who makes these decisions and he's a huge fan of susan rice. >> well, we'll see what he does. >> and don't forget, in the top four cabinet posts, susan rice is a woman....
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susan rice. will she be the president's secretary of state nominee and could she get confirmed in the senate at this point? >> i can't say that because the president has not told me what his decision will be. there have been two excellent names mentioned, ambassador rice and my colleague, senator kerry. either one of them would have a tough job following the great job of hillary clinton, but they could both serve this country in an extraordinary way as secretary of state. >> you're saying that rice could get confirmed? >> i do believe so. i think at the end, some of the criticisms against her have been unwarranted. many have gone just too far. there is really a basic feeling of fairness. she is an extraordinary person. she's certainly well educated and has really served our nation well as ambassador to the united nations. >> all right. and msnbc's lawrence o'donnell. all coming up after the break. >>> "me >>> coming up here, as hillary clinton prepares to step down as secretary of state, her popu
susan rice. will she be the president's secretary of state nominee and could she get confirmed in the senate at this point? >> i can't say that because the president has not told me what his decision will be. there have been two excellent names mentioned, ambassador rice and my colleague, senator kerry. either one of them would have a tough job following the great job of hillary clinton, but they could both serve this country in an extraordinary way as secretary of state. >> you're...
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no more susan rice potentially as secretary of state. >> reporter: that's right, be wolf. it clears the path for president obama to choose without controversy. if he was going to name ambassador rice to that post, in a statement the president released he said in part,
no more susan rice potentially as secretary of state. >> reporter: that's right, be wolf. it clears the path for president obama to choose without controversy. if he was going to name ambassador rice to that post, in a statement the president released he said in part,
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rice as a potential nominee. >> well, i think susan rice is imminently qualified and capable of being secretary of state. my only concern is political, and it is that the president uses up so much of his good will as he begins his second term that it does not last long enough for him to get through some of the major initiatives that we all hope will be brought forth like an energy policy. there are some -- there are dangers either way, if he goes with kerry, there is a political concern about the seat in massachusetts. so i don't know. it's not going to be an easy decision for the president, and nothing seems to have ever been easy for him since he was sworn in. >> let me ask really quickly as a new session of congress is sworn in in january. you're chairman of the congressional black caucus. what is your top goal for the new session? >> to support very strongly the president's jobs bill. in all of the discussions that we're having about the debt ceiling and the deficit, there's little, if any, talk about jobs. that's what we've got to create. and the economy has changed appreciably s
rice as a potential nominee. >> well, i think susan rice is imminently qualified and capable of being secretary of state. my only concern is political, and it is that the president uses up so much of his good will as he begins his second term that it does not last long enough for him to get through some of the major initiatives that we all hope will be brought forth like an energy policy. there are some -- there are dangers either way, if he goes with kerry, there is a political concern...
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i saw his criticism of susan rice. i had some criticism myself. he was asking questions that needed to be asked, as we get answers, that will solve those problems. >> let me ask you one other thing when it comes to the mode of investigation that our government is now employing. i said it off the top of this introduction to you, that the fbi has now taken to facebook and twitter. look, you can say what you want about that being an investigative technique but facebook and twitter were widely credited for the arab spring uprisings all across the arab world so you can't make light that that is a pretty powerful tool. it may just sound we're kind of at wit's end. i'm not going to suggest you can give me information that's classified, but do you have a good sense at least that they're getting momentum with the tools they can use, that they're making headway in their investigation in libya? >> well, i understand from senator kerry we are going to have a report on the accountability review board before the end of this year. that's the next three weeks. th
i saw his criticism of susan rice. i had some criticism myself. he was asking questions that needed to be asked, as we get answers, that will solve those problems. >> let me ask you one other thing when it comes to the mode of investigation that our government is now employing. i said it off the top of this introduction to you, that the fbi has now taken to facebook and twitter. look, you can say what you want about that being an investigative technique but facebook and twitter were...
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. >> the short list to succeed secretary of state, hillary clinton, susan rice is thought to be a leading contender, but some republicans have been highly critical of rice following the attack on the u.s. consulate in libya. >> when they go after the u.n. ambassador because they think she is an easy target, then they have a problem. >> senator mccain? >> thank you very much, mr. secretary. >> senator john mccain jokingly gave the nomination to john kerry. >> i think john kerry would be an excellent appointment and would be easily confirmed by his colleagues. >> he is listed also to replace leon pennetta. senior democrats say ashton carter is on the list and former nebraska senator, a republican, could represent a reach across the aisle. >> we are in a stronger position today as a country than we were in '07. >> tim geithner said he will stay at his post until inauguration. and the chief of staff is often named as a potential replacement. a poll asked if he thought president obama would pick good cabinet members. 58% said they thought he would. >> the u.s. military wants its people to be i
. >> the short list to succeed secretary of state, hillary clinton, susan rice is thought to be a leading contender, but some republicans have been highly critical of rice following the attack on the u.s. consulate in libya. >> when they go after the u.n. ambassador because they think she is an easy target, then they have a problem. >> senator mccain? >> thank you very much, mr. secretary. >> senator john mccain jokingly gave the nomination to john kerry. >>...
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republicans have been so focused on susan rice on the whole benghazi incident. no one's put any emphasis on hillary clinton. is that going to help her? >> hillary clinton has been very adept at making sure she had no fingerprints on the whole benghazi fi areas ko. we have a very polarized political system where we are no longer the country where people could rally to i like ike. what you're seeing in that poll is one, a name recognition effect and two, a lot of republicans who remember the 2008 hillary clinton versus barack obama fight. barack obama won, so they liked hillary clinton. if hillary clinton had won in 2008, you would hear lots of republicans saying none of this would have happened if barack obama had won instead. if hillary clinton is the nominee in 2016, this will be an election decided by three or four percentage points. >> right. it always tightens. something happened last night. i'm curious about the other side since you're talking about 2008. marco rubio and paul ryan spoke at this dinner. these are speeches where they're trying to define who t
republicans have been so focused on susan rice on the whole benghazi incident. no one's put any emphasis on hillary clinton. is that going to help her? >> hillary clinton has been very adept at making sure she had no fingerprints on the whole benghazi fi areas ko. we have a very polarized political system where we are no longer the country where people could rally to i like ike. what you're seeing in that poll is one, a name recognition effect and two, a lot of republicans who remember...
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they called it provocative and susan rice said the council is working on how to respond to the north's violation. >> we are very much ready to engage with our colleagues on the council and we will be searching for a clear and credible response. we have some elements and aspects that we think are important and others have theirs and we will come to an agreement. >> china is an ally and expressed regret over the launch. we report that north korea may have up to a few dozen nuclear weapons that could be fitted on top of ballistic missiles. just in the past hour, police in oregon gave us an update on the mall shooting that left three people dead. we are learning the identity of the shooter. plus as the administration deals with the new laws legalizing marijuana in washington and colorado, former president jimmy carter weighs in on legalizing pot. >> i'm in favor of it. i think it's okay. >> that by the way is one of the things we thought you should know. [ male announcer ] red lobster's hitting the streets to tell real people about our new 15 under $15 menu. oh my goodness! oh my gosh, thi
they called it provocative and susan rice said the council is working on how to respond to the north's violation. >> we are very much ready to engage with our colleagues on the council and we will be searching for a clear and credible response. we have some elements and aspects that we think are important and others have theirs and we will come to an agreement. >> china is an ally and expressed regret over the launch. we report that north korea may have up to a few dozen nuclear...
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ambassador susan rice and the president of covering up the libya tragedy. even though the cia provided her talking points. so here we go again, a new boogieman, a defunked group stole the election. it's kind of funny but to nearly half believe it, it's scary, just like that boogieman that doesn't exist. thank for watching. i'm al sharpton. "hardball" starts right now. >>> scaring the republicans. let's play "hardball." ♪ >>> good evening. i'm chris matthews in washington. let me start tonight with this, with hope. i think we're getting somewhere with this fiscal cliff problem. number one, smart conservatives now say the republicans would face hell if they let this country go over the fiscal cliff. just to protect the top 2%.ç better to take the hit now, they argued, than in january with the world economy in turmoil and second recession coming. number two, john boehner, the speaker is claiming he's met obama's demand for higher taxes for the rich. that's good. he agreed in principle the rich must pay more. number three, there's talk for the republican le
ambassador susan rice and the president of covering up the libya tragedy. even though the cia provided her talking points. so here we go again, a new boogieman, a defunked group stole the election. it's kind of funny but to nearly half believe it, it's scary, just like that boogieman that doesn't exist. thank for watching. i'm al sharpton. "hardball" starts right now. >>> scaring the republicans. let's play "hardball." ♪ >>> good evening. i'm chris...
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i want to talk about the middle east exploding that you've hinted at and also benghazi and susan rice, which i know is a favorite subject of yours, senator. >> so good of you, pierce. thrit, can you start the day the way you want? can orencia help? could your "i want" become "i can"? talk to your doctor. orencia reduces many ra symptoms like pain, morning stiffness and progression of joint damage. it's helped new ra patients and those not helped enough by other treatments. do not take orencia with another biologic medicine for ra due to an increased risk of serious infection. serious side effects can occur including fatal infections. cases of lymphoma and lung cancer have been reported. tell your doctor if you are prone to or have any infection like an open sore or the flu or a history of copd, a chronic lung disease. orencia may worsen your copd. [ male announcer ] now learn about a program committed to you and copay assistance that can reduce monthly orencia out-of-pocket drug cost to $5. if you're not satisfied after 6 months, you get that money back. call 1-800-orencia. >>> breaki
i want to talk about the middle east exploding that you've hinted at and also benghazi and susan rice, which i know is a favorite subject of yours, senator. >> so good of you, pierce. thrit, can you start the day the way you want? can orencia help? could your "i want" become "i can"? talk to your doctor. orencia reduces many ra symptoms like pain, morning stiffness and progression of joint damage. it's helped new ra patients and those not helped enough by other...
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ambassador susan rice's personal rating upside down. first time we've ever tested her. a third of the voters say they don't know who she is. that's amazing that only a third of voters doesn't know who she is. among those who do know her, only 20% view her positively, 20% negatively, for now benghazi has taken a back seat to syria, where the syria military is now firing scud missiles at rebel forces in the north, almost thumbing its nose a little bit at the world community here. jim joins me now. it's as if essentially they've seen the line the world is drawing when it comes to chemical weapons and feel they can do almost anything else. >> u.s. officials said this is a clear sign the assad regime in damascus is becoming ever more desperate. this is the first time in a two-year war that the syrian military has used these scud missiles against the rebels. they fired six to eight of them into the north, presumably at rebel strongholds. at least two of them, there are reports, fell in neighborhoods. there are other signs that would make it appear anyway that the assad regime
ambassador susan rice's personal rating upside down. first time we've ever tested her. a third of the voters say they don't know who she is. that's amazing that only a third of voters doesn't know who she is. among those who do know her, only 20% view her positively, 20% negatively, for now benghazi has taken a back seat to syria, where the syria military is now firing scud missiles at rebel forces in the north, almost thumbing its nose a little bit at the world community here. jim joins me...
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the latest on susan rice with michael oh hammond and mallalla is honored on human rights day. that's all coming up next on "an dree mitchell reports. we are gathered here today to celebrate the union of tim and laura. it's amazing how appreciative people are when you tell them they could save a lot of money on their car insurance by switching to geico...they may even make you their best man. may i have the rings please? ah, helzberg diamonds. nice choice, mate. ...and now in the presence...